[Mac-telephony-list] LinuxPPC & * or OpenPBX?

[Thoth via List]

While in many ways I agree with Tom here, I think it's important to realize 
the distinction between his opinion, Amanda's, Ben's, and my own.  Ben's post 
reminded me of why most of the machines I own have an apple symbol on them.  
Amanda has valid points, but so does Tom here in stressing the importance of 
stability and dedicated machines.  The difference is what you expect out of 
your setup.  Heck, while Tom's talking about things that make me want a farm 
of thirty servers, we've also got someone complaining about the two dollars a 
month an 8600 might take up in electricity.  Wide and varying it would seem 
our subscribers are.  In regards to Tom, you have to realize that some people 
do not need 60 SIP calls going on, they may merely want a fancy answering 
machine.  In regards to Amanda and Ben, you people are making Linux out to be 
much scarier than it is.  Linux is quite simply not strictly for the land of 
uber l33t *nix geeks anymore.   So you want GUI's for configuring 
apache/bind/postfix/mysql/firewall/etc it can all be found in:

http://www.webmin.com/

This free utility will even configure these things on OS X if you're into 
paying for a license on a machine that by all rights should be locked away in 
a closet with nary a keyboard or monitor attached (much less a mouse).  But 
if you have the ability to post in an intelligent manner to a mailing list 
(which you all have proven you can do), then you have all the skills 
necessary to run a linux box behind a firewall (and given a month or two 
looking at a security mailing list I would venture that you might even be 
able to run one exposed to the internet at large).  And by getting rid of the 
GUI you'll be freeing loads of memory and cpu clock cycles.  And for the 
record I have quite a few linux servers (mostly debian), and on one I run as 
many services as possible absolutely attempting to break it.  And not once 
have I ever had a problem with the services conflicting, most of my problems 
have been the occasional configuration file overwrite by the package manager.  
Like I said, Tom's little rant makes me want a farm of thirty, but 
practicality says I have fewer.  By all rights and means, I am excited about 
asterisk running on OS X so more people have a chance to try things out, and 
hopefully more tools like Ivan's and the Sun stuff will sprout up.  But if 
you are holding your breath for a perfect OS X asterisk/opbx server, maybe 
you should poke your head out of the water and take a sniff at the other 
flora around you.  I promise it's not that bad, I'd say it's even easier to 
setup than OS X + ast/opbx atm.

Josh

On Friday 22 December 2006 08:37, Tom Rymes via List wrote:
> On Dec 21, 2006, at 11:15 PM, Benjamin Kowarsch via List wrote:
> > On Dec 22, 2006, at 12:35 PM, Thoth via List wrote:
> >> Add in samba sharing, ldap, openexchange, email, and web services,
> >> and a linux server can provide a ton
> >> of corporate level phunctionality all with no licensing fees.
> >
> > Nobody in their right mind would want to run a corporate PBX on
> > anything but a dedicated-to-telephony-and-nothing-but-telephony-only
> > server. Well, perhaps in a mom-and-pop business or a small startup
> > short of funding, but certainly not in a corporate environment.
>
> I second this opinion. Phones are simply waaaaaay too important to
> any business to not spend the money on a dedicated server for your
> PBX. Even in a mom-and-pop or startup situation, you can repurpose an
> older desktop or byu refurbished to save money. Heck, Dell servers
> like the SC440 should easily handle the minor call volume a small
> company like that will  generate. We have run 60 SIP extensions, an
> incoming PRI and multiple G.729 transcoded calls all on a Pentium 4
> system using a Sangoma card and it didn't even flinch.
>
> Tom
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